ALMA Calibration Discussion Group

Phone Meeting 2002-11-15


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ACTION ITEMS

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  • Review of Memo No. 423 (and the others)
  • Distribution of Science Examples description
  • Distribution of ASAC Report
  • Semi-transparent vane test plan distribution
  • Work on polarization requirements (in addition to others)

    New Business: Minutes

    Attendance: Brogan, Guilloteau, Gurwell, Hasegawa, Holdaway, Lucas, Martin-Pintado, Momose, Mundy, Pety, Richer, Saito, Woody, Wootten, Wright

    The Minutes of the last meeting were accepted. Cernicharo has sent in a review of Memo No. 415 which will be circulated, the status of others is unknown. Review of Memo 423 would be very timely; Guilloteau will publish it in the memo series to ease access. Wootten will remind Myers and Blake that they agreed to review this memo. Wootten noted that the Calibration section of the ASAC report was in the agenda, with the full report to be published momentarily.

    Milestones

    Wootten briefly reviewed the milestones--what they are and how they are controlled. After briefly commenting on the Configuration status, he turned to a discussion of the Calibration Milestones, which occupied the majority of the meeting.

    The first milestone involves the establishment of calibration requirements from science examples. These are currently being sought from the ASAC and other sources. Guilloteau will send the ALMACal group a copy of his email with some examples.

    Wootten mentioned a report received from Douglas Bock at Berkeley on the dual load calibration system undergoing tests at BIMA. New hardware has been constructed to enable tests to confirm the stability of the coupling coefficient, and to evaluate the reliability with which it can be measured. BIMA hopes to do this within weeks.

    There was some discussion of the status of the semi-transparent vane device. Japan will also use a similar device for the ASTE system; comment was made that an exchange of information on design and materials as well as results would be useful. Martin-Pintado stated that the test plan for implementation of a device on the 30m would be available within a week or so. Reviews of Memo 423 would be very useful in formulating these tests, Guilloteau noted. Woody inquired about the nature of the tests, to which Martin-Pintado replied that the results would be compared to the current hot and cold load system. Woody noted that an interferometer might provide a better test. It was pointed out that the excellent 30m wobbler system should enable a test with 1% accuracy. Martin-Pintado noted that among the tests would be tests of polarization effects, for which specifications would be extremely useful. Science examples which can help to set the polarization requirements would be especially useful. Wootten noted that the planning of devices to fit in the 'widget space' was well along, and that requirements needed to be set for the 'polarization widget' in a timely manner, which could also be drawn from polarization science examples.

    In conjunction with Milestone II.C.3.f.i Wootten noted that the agenda for a workshop on calibration strategies with the Herschel HIFI team was attached to the agenda. Interested parties are urged to consult this and make their plans if they wish to attend. A report from this workshop will be used to help formulate ALMA strategy, particularly amplitude calibration.

    Wootten noted that the calibration tests planned for the ATF interferometer were contingent on the availability of the interferometer itself, as its planning was underway.

    Richer noted that the WVR group had reviewed the Section II-D WVR-related milestones and that they were compiling a more detailed response, but that the framework in the Science IPT plan was generally similar to the WVR Group plan.

    Hasegawa confirmed that a Japanese group is working on detailed specifications for the ACA, to deliver a draft plan to be reviewed by March 2003.

    Upcoming Photonic and Receiver Specification Meetings

    This coming week meetings will be held in Charlottesville to consider photonic options for the LO on ALMA, and to set Specifications for Receivers. The NA Imaging and Calibration Group has been discussing in particular the specifications for gain stability in receivers. A collection of relevant documents may be found at the agenda for their 5 November meeting. Comments on this subject are welcome for the meeting next week.

    Next Meeting

    The next meeting was agreed for 13 December as proposed (14 December in Japan).



    Old Business: Minutes

    Minutes from last month's meeting are available.

    Agenda

    Status: Memo Reviews  (all) I have not had an update since last meeting; Bryan cannot attend today so here is a review of the status last month:

      List of the status of the reviews/reviewers. The key is: "C" - already submitted a review; "U" = submitted an unsolicited review; "Y" = agreed to review the memo; "N" - declined to review the memo; "NR" - no response. Links are provided to reviews; please consult the archive for subsequent discussions.
      1 - Memo 423 - Steve Myers (Y), Matt Carter (N), Geoff Blake (Y)
      2 - Memo 422 - Douglas Bock (Y), Lee Mundy (NR), Jeff Mangum (C), Dave Woody (U) (Memo withdrawn)
      3 - Memo 427 - Robert Lucas (C), Ed Fomalont (NR), Craig Walker (C)
      4 - Memo 372 - Jeff Mangum (C), Larry D'Addario (C), Mark Gurwell (N), Bryan Butler (U)
      5 - Memo 415 - Jose Cernicharo (C), Mark Holdaway (C), John Richer (Y)
      6 - Memo 404 & 403 - Mel Wright (N), Dave Woody (Y&C), John Richer (Y)
      8 - Memo 402 - Richard Hills (Y), Peter Napier (NR)
      9 - Memo 352 - Dave Woody (C), Chris Wilson (C), Dick Plambeck (N)
      10 - Memo 434 - Stephane Guilloteau (C)
      so, as yet no response from:
      Lee Mundy - 422
      Ed Fomalont - 427
      Peter Napier - 402
     
      and awaiting agreed upon reviews from:
      Steve Myers - 423
      Geoff Blake - 423
      Douglas Bock - 422
      John Richer - 415, 404, 403
      Richard Hills - 402


    Science IPT Calibration Milestones  (A. Wootten)  Required level of effort estimates.  See Section II for Calibration.

    ASAC Report: Calibration Items  (A. Wootten) Concerning calibration, the ASAC recommends that the newly appointed Calibration group addresses urgently all the calibration issues for ALMA, with a clear timeline indicating design reviews and decision points, and defines as soon as possible the required minimum hardware. A decision on the dual-load system should be made rapidly, and a framework for the future of the coherent photonic calibration
    system should be established. In addition, the ASAC urges the Calibration group to include polarization calibration as a vital part of its planning.
    Full text of calibration section is available.




      European ALMA workshop in Leiden 18-20 December. One purpose is to stimulate interaction between the ALMA and Herschel-HIFI communities on issues of common interest, in particular calibration.New

     
      Date of next phone meeting According to the schedule the next one should be on: 2002, December 13th 16:00 UT