Steve Scott's email of Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:08:54 -0700 A few comments on data rate issues. History The SSR proposal to increase the datarates that was formalized in May 2002 was initiated by the feasibility study for an enhanced correlator published in ALMA Memo #350. Some excellent science cases were also distributed at the same time that emphasized the utility of a large number of channels. The ASAC examined the requirements for an enhanced correlator in their report in October 2001. These requirements were welcomed to the extent that they could also apply to the baseline correlator, so an SSR sub-committee re-evaluated the datarates. The proposal (attached) was forwarded to the Computing IPT in May 2002. In January of this year the enhancement to the baseline correlator was proposed. The SSR requested input from the Science IPT on datarates and a report (also attached) was sent to them as background information. My 2 cents worth I completely agree with the opinions that the data rates should be science driven. That is not to say that the discussions have not been tempered with a view to feasibility. The limiting factor is probably not the actual archiving of the data, but the downstream image processing. While the idea of using the DSRP is sound in theory, we do not have the resources to utilize it in a timely way to affect the implementation that is now underway. Keeping in mind the ASAC's recommendations along with the capabilities of the enhanced correlator, it seems reasonable to assume an average number of channels of at least 8K (not including the atmospheric pathlength corrected data). This also recognizes the opinion of the Science IPT that the tendency will be for the astronomer to stick with the high resolution spectra and only degrade the resolution when required. The estimated average integration time of 10 seconds is probably sound. The 8K channel target leads to a factor of four increase over the existing average rate. Considerations of a factor of five or even eight would not be unreasonable. The recommendation for the peak data rate has been tempered by technical considerations, which we will temporarily ignore, and examine three test cases that ALMA should be able to handle. The first is all 32K channels at the "average" 10 second integration rate, recording both the corrected and uncorrected data. The second is the average number of channels (8K) recorded at the timescale of the atmospheric fluctuations (1 second) for self-calibration. No pathlength correction is required for this data. The third case is the average number of channels (8K) recorded fast enough to avoid fringe smearing at the longest baseline. Scaling from Barry's experience at the VLA, we get an integration time of about 2.5 seconds for a 14 km baseline. For the peak rate we deal with the total number of channels recorded, not necessarily the number of channels in a single sideband (for double sideband receivers). These three cases give the following peak rate for visibility data only: 32K/10s: 12.9 MVPS 51 MBPS 8K/1.0s: 16.2 MVPS 65 MBPS 8K/2.5s: 12.9 MVPS 51 MBPS In summary, I think that we should: 1) Size the average visibility rate to handle 8K channels at 10 second integration time. 2) Size the peak visibility rate to handle 8K channels at 1 second (the worst case above). 3) Base the average image pixel rates on 8K channel data. Using the equations and assumptions in the attachment and a peak 16K channel/10 minute interval for image production gives: Vis Pix Total Ave 4.5MVPS/18.0MBPS 1.8MPPS/ 7.2MBPS 25.2MBPS Peak 16.2MVPS/64.8MBPS 7.2MPPS/28.8MBPS 93.6MBPS Cheers, Steve