Science IPT 20 July 2004 De Breuck, Zwaan, Wilson, MAngum, Hogerheijde, Radford, Wootten, Emerson, Kawabe, Wilson, Sterling, Hills, Saito, Richer Wootten read through the items on the agenda. Emerson reported on Cloudsat, a cloud radar at 94 GHz to be launched April 2005 as a part of the 'A-train' which consists of 5 satellites; this is the only active satellite. Two of the satellites are in orbit. The horrifying aspect of this is the power involved. The peak power is 1.8 kW into a 64 dB gain antenna producing 4 x 10^9 W looking down. As seen by a 12m antenna there would be 60 mW of power, enough to destroy a receiver. The subsatellite points repeat every 16 days and subtend 170 km or so. At ALMA there will be 5-6 passes above the horizon. Only when pointed straight up will we couple to the satellite. Stow position should avoid the zenith, as should source tracking. This is officially a two year project but will surely be extended. Apart from destruction of receivers, there are other disturbing effects. Sidelobes coupling is quite low--we'd see a line of 10 mK or so. However, if our beam is pointing at the satellite and it points elsewhere we would pick up power enough to saturate the B3 rx. Satellite takes about 15 minutes max to cross horizon to horizon. It is possible for the footprint to skim the edge of ALMA. In sixteen days, probably two passes come over some portion of the extended ALMA. There is a similar plan in Europe with 2012 launch. Operationally we need to never point at the satellite--always stow with attenuator in place. We will have mm wave interference. This is predictable. RH: Surely the actual amoung of time in the beam is small. DTE: Horizon to horizon 5-6 passes per day, worst case 15 minutes transit across the sky. The main beam crosses any one antenna in one second. So in toto, this is a few seconds every two weeks. Probability is less than once in ten thousand years that we would accidentally observe the satellite. RH: We don't ignore it but we don't run screaming to the barricades. TLW: The Allen array also worries about this. The scheduler can take this into account. Hesser is actively working on charges. Project Scientist reports Kawabe: Agreement has been reached between the bilateral partners and Japan. JP will sign the agreement by early September. The Science IPT activities are joint works between the three partners. JP nominates several people for subgroups. Secondly, we would like to join in other activities. We would like to join the CSV group. Current candidates are Saito, Morita, and KAwabe. One person will be hired to work as ALMA-J system scientist who will work with that group and the science IPT, within about a half year. There is an internal meetin in jAPAN soon of Science IPT to decide. DTE: Describes new design of the total power backend. There are still ramifications for the CIPT in that their plans to send the data on a CAN bus cannot handle this higher datarate. ARCS Calibration Group. Plan for frequency of meetings and communication. First topic is to move the calibration plan from draft into a more final form. This was broken into sections with assignments for work on that. Continuation of the work will follow the structure of the Plan. Welch 28.5 GHz work to be circulated, it is an Icarus preprint. DRSP Cal attributes have not progressed owing to teaching pressures. RH: Heard likely to be delays in interferometry. WVR demo wanted during winter period. SSR face-to-face meeting 1-2 October. Looking at ACA requirements. Going through requirements that need finer granularity. Andy Hale hired to help with testing. CDR2 results reported by Lucas. CW: From point of pipeline. Radford: