At the VLA, a rubidium time standard is used in place of the maser, which is expensive and sometimes unavailable. What should ALMA do, Clint asks? Is the rubidium standard suitable? I discussed this with Mark Claussen and Ed Fomalont. Ed thinks that there are better choices for a time reference available today than a rubidium standard. I think that the maser should be used whenever available but that the backup could be a more current solution than the rubidium standard. There may be another maser at the APEX or ASTE sites. If we can't afford two hydrogen masers, we should identify and cost the alternatives to the rubidium standard and consider using those if possible. What could be economically subsituted for a rubidium standard when backing up the maser. Rubidum is used as a back up at the VLA because they are cheap, in fact, Leon Abeyta tells me they were "free." We've always gone with rubidium because we've obtained them free. According to Leon, a cesium is the next most expensive standard, but since you can't do VLBI with it, it's no better than a rubidium. Leon does report that "we back up the rubidium with an 'extremely low noise' crystal that I am told is good enough to run the entire VLA."; is that it? Maybe a discplined GPS? Thoughts?