From rkornilo@nyx.cs.du.edu Wed Dec 30 10:49:12 1992 X-VM-VHeader: ("From:" "Sender:" "Resent-From" "To:" "Apparently-To:" "Cc:" "Subject:" "Date:" "Resent-Date:") nil X-VM-Bookmark: 2 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["2712" "Wed" "30" "December" "92" "04:04:55" "GMT" "Ryan Korniloff" "rkornilo@nyx.cs.du.edu " nil "58" "Re: astro gifs" "^From:" nil nil "12"]) Newsgroups: sci.astro Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci. From: rkornilo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ryan Korniloff) Subject: Re: astro gifs Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 04:04:55 GMT >Path: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!uunet!gatech!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!hri.com!ukma!netnews.louisville.edu!ulkyvx.louisville.edu!jsmill01 >From: jsmill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu >Newsgroups: sci.astro >Subject: Re: astro gifs >Message-ID: <1992Dec29.170338.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> >Date: 29 Dec 92 21:03:38 GMT >References: <1992Dec27.235433.4877@engr.LaTech.edu> <725507498snz@chrism.demon.co.uk> <1992Dec29.173618.24896@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> >Sender: news@netnews.louisville.edu (Netnews) >Organization: University of Louisville >Lines: 28 >Nntp-Posting-Host: ulkyvx02.louisville.edu > >In article <1992Dec29.173618.24896@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, (Carl Soderland) writes: >> In article <725507498snz@chrism.demon.co.uk>, chris@chrism.demon.co.uk (Chris Marriott) writes: >>> >>> > i would like to know whether there is an anonymous ftp site for astro gifs. >>> > can anybody help? >>> >>> Try "ames.arc.nasa.gov". Look in directory "/pub/SPACE/GIFS". >>> >> >> The node mentioned contains alot of GIF formatted files, but how do I look at >> one of these. Can anyone provide a source for the necessary imaging software? >> >> Thanks for your help. >============================================================================== >You don't mention a machine to run it on, but a good program is >available in the same archive. Ron Baalke's program is in >pub/SPACE/SOFTWARE or pub/SPACE/PROGRAMS (I haven't been in there in a >while to look, and am not sure if the particular directories are all >caps, all small or mixed case). It's called Imdisp**, where the *'s >indicate latest version. I've used it on my 8086 to decent viewing, >and all I've got is EGA. On a 386 or 486 with VGA it's bound to be >much better. > >Regards > >Scott Miller, Program Coordinator >Rauch Memorial Planetarium >University of Louisville Yes, the directory the software is in is /pub/SPACE/SOFTWARE. The Imdisp (Image Display) program supplied is for the MSDOS based systems. The lastest version is "imdisp79.zip" You will need the pkunzip program to decompress it, which I beleieve is on the same directory. Once you are done installing the program, put the GIF images in the same directory until you learn how to use the promgram (a quick-start method), the program can be a little confusing to use sometimes. Then, when you want to view a GIF type in the commands "file 'gif image'" Then type the command "display" or "dis" for short. This will display the image on the screen. To do more complicated image monipulation, you will have to read, most preferably print, the documentation file. It's a really nice program after you figure out what to do. -- Ryan Korniloff -- rkornilo@nyx.cs.du.edu From baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov Mon Feb 1 10:03:05 1993 Status: RO X-VM-v5-Data: ([nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil nil] ["1462" "" "29" "January" "1993" "16:09" "UT" "Ron Baalke" "baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov " nil "24" "Re: IMDISP 7.9 and VESA" "^From:" nil nil "1"]) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) Subject: Re: IMDISP 7.9 and VESA Date: 29 Jan 1993 16:09 UT In article <1993Jan28.182712.12907@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, martin@space.ualberta.ca (Martin Connors) writes... >Having had IMDISP7.7a give sort of good results with VESA VGA (nice >display of images except there were horizontal lines every 100 or so >lines), I downloaded 7.9 and find that I cannot get images to display >properly at all - sometimes nothing, sometimes a vertical white bar. >Anyone got VESA experience with imdisp 7.9. BTW this is with a Local Bus >Tseng T4000-based clone? board, and I use a VESA driver (ETIVESA) in a DOS >shell under Windows. IMDISP currently does not support VESA. There were some experimental VESA drivers put in about a year ago, and it somewhat works with some of the ET4000 graphic boards. IMDISP has never been advertised to work with the VESA drivers, but I do plan to add them in. Right now, the VESA drivers are number 4 on my priority list. First, I'm fixing a bug with the DISP CEN command (so that the JEI CD-ROM can be released), and then add lat/lon for the Magellan and Viking CD-ROMs, and add image tiling for the Magellan CD-ROMs. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | Every once in a while, /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | try pushing your luck. |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | From baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov Mon Feb 1 18:04:43 1993 From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) Newsgroups: sci.astro Subject: Re: IMDISP 7.9 and VESA Date: 1 Feb 1993 20:54 UT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <1993Feb1.174733.24275@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, martin@space.ualberta.ca (Martin Connors) writes... >In article <29JAN199316091686@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> >baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes: >> IMDISP currently does not support VESA. There were some experimental >> VESA drivers put in about a year ago, and it somewhat works with some of >> the ET4000 graphic boards. IMDISP has never been advertised to work >> with the VESA drivers, but I do plan to add them in. Right now, the >> VESA drivers are number 4 on my priority list. > >Any timelines, Ron? I just spent several thousand dollars (well, only >Canadian dollars I guess) largely hoping to continue my Venus work at home >on a hot 486 with good graphics....and lots of other IMDISP users are >likely getting into VESA too. What is the best version to use in the >meantime? 7.7a seemed to work somewhat with VESA.... I really can't say. I work on IMDISP on my own personal time and I don't get paid for it. I spent this past weekend fixing a bug (missed the first quarter of the Superbowl, too), so the VESA drivers have now moved to number 3 on the priority list. The best version to get is the latest version: 7.9. Adding in the VESA drivers is major work. I'd figure it will take 2 months of evenings and weekends to add the VESA drivers, once I get started on it. Version 8.0 of IMDISP has been reserved specifically for the VESA driver version. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | Never yell "Movie!" in a /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | crowded fire station. |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | From newberry@aquarius.as.arizona.edu Mon Feb 1 18:05:41 1993 From: newberry@aquarius.as.arizona.edu (Mike Newberry) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro Subject: Re: IMDISP 7.9 and VESA Date: 1 Feb 93 21:16:20 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ In article <1993Jan28.182712.12907@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> martin@space.ualberta.ca (Martin Connors) writes: >Having had IMDISP7.7a give sort of good results with VESA VGA (nice >display of images except there were horizontal lines every 100 or so >lines), I downloaded 7.9 and find that I cannot get images to display >properly at all - sometimes nothing, sometimes a vertical white bar. >Anyone got VESA experience with imdisp 7.9. BTW this is with a Local Bus >Tseng T4000-based clone? board, and I use a VESA driver (ETIVESA) in a DOS >shell under Windows. > >-- >Martin Connors | >Space Research | martin@space.ualberta.ca (403) 492-2526 >University of Alberta | I haven't any idea why IMDISP wouldn't work on a VESA compatible video card. VESA provides extensions to the basic video BIOS functions. If IMDISP will work on a non-VESA card, and it does, then it should also work on a VESA based card. Ron Baalke, one of the IMDISP programmers says that IMDISP is not intended to be VESA compatible. Therefore, since VESA provides BIOS *extensions* which are not used by IMDISP, IMDISP should indeed run. There's somehting else going on here--maybe a bug in the IMDISP code in which it sends an erroneous command to the card which does nothing on a non-VESA card but accidentally executes a VESA function on the VESA compatible card. Mike Newberry From martin@space.ualberta.ca Wed Feb 10 16:02:39 1993 Newsgroups: sci.astro From: martin@space.ualberta.ca (Martin Connors) Subject: Re: IMDISP 7.9 and VESA Nntp-Posting-Host: jupiter.space.ualberta.ca Reply-To: martin@space.ualberta.ca (Martin Connors) Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1993 16:39:20 GMT In article <1ku99mINNccd@chnews.intel.com> sstrazdu@vulcan.intel.com (Stephen Strazdus) writes: > Most of the > drivers that are available with IMDISP should work for video cards which > go in the VESA local-bus. So for instance, if Martin has a VESA > local-bus card which uses a Tseng ET4000 VGA chipset, he can probably use the > ORCHID800 and ORCHID1024 drivers in IMDISP, and get either 800x600 or > 1024x768 resolution. > > Sorry for the PC discussion in sci.astro, but it seemed appropriate. Yup, ORCHID1024 works well under IMDISP 7.7, but not under 7.9. VESA sort of works under 7.7 but not under 7.9. 7.7 has two lucky numbers in it so that must help! And I am sure (at least hope) many sci.space readers use IMDISP and our techie talk is thus relevant. Thanks! -- Martin Connors | Space Research | martin@space.ualberta.ca (403) 492-2526 University of Alberta | From bruce@plato.ds.boeing.com Wed Feb 17 21:20:46 1993 Newsgroups: sci.astro From: bruce@plato.ds.boeing.com (Bruce Stock) Subject: Re: IMDISP 7.9 and VESA Organization: Boeing Defense & Space Group Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 20:36:30 GMT >From article <1993Feb5.215447.13821@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, by martin@space.ualberta.ca (Martin Connors): > It turns out that I can get 1024*768 256 color display using SET > IMDISP=ORCHID1024 under 7.7 of IMDISP. The orchid card and mine are both > based on ET4000 chips and that may explain this. Under 7.9 neither > ORCHID1024 nor VESA give an image. So my immediate problem is solved if I > use 7.7. I thank Ron Baalke and Archie Warnock for their supportive > replies and for their continuing volunteer efforts in providing IMDISP. > -- > Martin Connors | > Space Research | martin@space.ualberta.ca (403) 492-2526 > University of Alberta | I can get 1024x768x256 to work (using set dis orchid1024) on my Orchid Prodesigner IIs using IMDISP 7.7 - 7.9 only at the DOS level. When run in a DOS window in Win 3.1 Enhanced mode (full screen, of course), only 7.7 still works, 7.9 displays garbage. Thus I use 7.7 in preference to 7.9 since the only thing I run these days at the DOS level is *windows*. From timla@microsoft.com Wed Feb 17 21:21:27 1993 Newsgroups: sci.astro From: timla@microsoft.com (Tim Lacy) Subject: Re: Star Names (for workstations) Date: 17 Feb 93 08:35:21 GMT Organization: Microsoft Corporation In article <1993Feb12.133608.15641@almserv.uucp> gauegc@fnma.COM writes: >hello. our group has been naming our Sun workstations after star >names. [please, if you don't like it, don't flame me.... i didn't >start the trend] so, i'm on the hunt for good star names to use. >we've already started expanding out to constellation names. Sorry. We started naming ours after trees. Then started in with Satellite Names. Like Mir, Redstone ( I know, don't blame me ), Gemini, etc. Our next kick will probably be Star Trek Trivia... Tribble, McCoy, DiLithium (ack!) etc. All kidding aside, check out a copy of a star atlas from your library. There are _plenty_ of names...... --Tim Lacy *Just me -- no one else would say *#$% like this* From baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov Wed Feb 17 21:23:56 1993 From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) Newsgroups: sci.astro Subject: Re: IMDISP 7.9 and Windows Date: 17 Feb 1993 14:36 UT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article , bruce@plato.ds.boeing.com (Bruce Stock) writes... >I can get 1024x768x256 to work (using set dis orchid1024) on my Orchid >Prodesigner IIs using IMDISP 7.7 - 7.9 only at the DOS level. When run >in a DOS window in Win 3.1 Enhanced mode (full screen, of course), only >7.7 still works, 7.9 displays garbage. Thus I use 7.7 in preference to >7.9 since the only thing I run these days at the DOS level is *windows*. IMDISP is not a Windows application, but you should be able to launch it as a DOS task. In fact, I just tried it, and successfully launched both version 7.7 and 7.9 of IMDISP. I loaded in an Io image, and both versions displayed it just fine with no problems. I'm using Windows 3.0, so perhaps there is a bug in Windows 3.1? ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | If you don't stand for /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | something, you'll fall |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | for anything. From bruce@plato.ds.boeing.com Sat Feb 20 11:41:41 1993 Newsgroups: sci.astro From: bruce@plato.ds.boeing.com (Bruce Stock) Subject: Re: IMDISP 7.9 and Windows Organization: Boeing Defense & Space Group Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1993 00:16:29 GMT >From article <17FEB199314362610@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov>, by baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke): >>7.9 since the only thing I run these days at the DOS level is *windows*. > > IMDISP is not a Windows application, but you should be able to launch > it as a DOS task. In fact, I just tried it, and successfully launched > both version 7.7 and 7.9 of IMDISP. I loaded in an Io image, and both > versions displayed it just fine with no problems. I'm using Windows 3.0, > so perhaps there is a bug in Windows 3.1? > ___ _____ ___ > /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov > | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | > ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | If you don't stand for > /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | something, you'll fall > |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | for anything. All I can say is that the same behavior occurs on my Windows 3.0 386 as well. The only common element between the two machines is the Orchid Prodesigner IIs card. Otherwise the machines are quite different. I assume you were using 256 color mode both in windows and in IMDISP? > From baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov Mon Feb 22 20:54:25 1993 From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) Newsgroups: sci.astro Subject: Re: IMDISP 7.9 and Windows Date: 23 Feb 1993 00:42 UT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article , bruce@plato.ds.boeing.com (Bruce Stock) writes... >From article <17FEB199314362610@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov>, by baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke): >> >> IMDISP is not a Windows application, but you should be able to launch >> it as a DOS task. In fact, I just tried it, and successfully launched >> both version 7.7 and 7.9 of IMDISP. I loaded in an Io image, and both >> versions displayed it just fine with no problems. I'm using Windows 3.0, >> so perhaps there is a bug in Windows 3.1? >All I can say is that the same behavior occurs on my Windows 3.0 386 as >well. The only common element between the two machines is the Orchid >Prodesigner IIs card. Otherwise the machines are quite different. I >assume you were using 256 color mode both in windows and in IMDISP? > I'm using a 386 with DOS 5.0, Orchid Prodesigner II card and Windows running in the 640x480, 256 color mode. I'm beginning to think you have your system or Windows configured different. Try out the PIF file I use. It is in the pub/SPACE/SOFTWARE directory at ames as imdisp.pif. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | If you don't stand for /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | something, you'll fall |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | for anything. From baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov Thu Mar 4 08:56:43 1993 From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.astro Subject: Re: IMDISP 7.9 and VESA Date: 1 Mar 93 19:22:33 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 In article <1993Jan28.182712.12907@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, martin@space.ualberta.ca (Martin Connors) writes... >Having had IMDISP7.7a give sort of good results with VESA VGA (nice >display of images except there were horizontal lines every 100 or so >lines), I downloaded 7.9 and find that I cannot get images to display >properly at all - sometimes nothing, sometimes a vertical white bar. >Anyone got VESA experience with imdisp 7.9. BTW this is with a Local Bus >Tseng T4000-based clone? board, and I use a VESA driver (ETIVESA) in a DOS >shell under Windows. IMDISP currently does not support VESA. There were some experimental VESA drivers put in about a year ago, and it somewhat works with some of the ET4000 graphic boards. IMDISP has never been advertised to work with the VESA drivers, but I do plan to add them in. Right now, the VESA drivers are number 4 on my priority list. First, I'm fixing a bug with the DISP CEN command (so that the JEI CD-ROM can be released), and then add lat/lon for the Magellan and Viking CD-ROMs, and add image tiling for the Magellan CD-ROMs. ___ _____ ___ /_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov | | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab | ___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | Every once in a while, /___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | try pushing your luck. |_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ |