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Some comments about the points raised by Anton and Don:

 1. A good point for the visibility of AstroWeb would certainly be
the adoption of a common logo. What about posting on "What's new"
at NCSA an announcement like:

  A <B><A HREF=anchor-to-be-defined>logo</A><B> for the AstroWeb:
The <A HREF="http://fits.cv.nrao.edu/www/astroweb.html"> AstroWeb </A>
is a living database of pointers to astronomically relevant
information available on the Internet, maintained by the
<A HREF=http://fits.cv.nrao.edu/www/astroweb.html><B>AstroWeb 
Consortium</B></A>, a collaboration between a number of individuals 
at different astronomical institutions.   <BR>
AstroWeb is looking for a logo: anyone on the Web is welcome to submit an entry.
The winning logo will appear on the AstroWeb pages, and the winner will be 
acknowledged in the on-line documentation. 


  Some of the logos submitted to ADS after a similar announcement are
of very good quality (http://adswww.colorado.edu/logos/logo_entries.html).
  There should be a "logo" page giving the technical requirements and
way to submit the entry.
  
 2.   Lists of astronomical resources
>  (examine for example the number of personal web pages at various
> research groups, which would appear to be running into the thousands)
  On the other hand, with more than 900 entries in AstroWeb, I think
it may be a good idea to maintain a "short list" of useful resources
at the level of an institute or research group. But of course this
"short list" should include a link to AstroWeb !

 3. Personal pages

> One of my motivations for improving our input forms is that when we
> advertise availability of the 'personal' category of AstroWeb, we are
> likely to be flooded with input! I want us to be ready for that.
> I expect that our 'personal' category could have 1000+ records within
> six months if we started advertising. 

   My feeling is that such a database of personal items is NOT the task 
of AstroWeb. I would prefer to see AstroWeb pointing to existing lists
maintained by specialized groups or individuals (such as the work made
by Andre with his new StarHeads, or by Benn and Martin for e-mail 
-- i.e. the category "people" in AstroWeb). 
  To say it differently , instead of having 932 resource records
in AstroWeb of which 266 are personal records, I would prefer 666 resource
records, and one more entry in the "people" category pointing to a separate
database of personal records.
  
 4. Optimizing the home page
> One basic strategy which I have used is to minimize the number of
> links which the user must click in order to find their target
> category.
  This will also make sense to have the input window of the 
search mechanism directly available on the home pages (even when the
search mechanism works on a different site).  This said, I realize that
the "search-master" of Bob doesn't work this morning. 
  --->> Bob, what happens ?

Daniel


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I have now added a "postage stamp" version of the Van Gogh's Starry Night
on the CDS AstroWeb page. 
Note that I have used a digitized version of the painting, from "Le WebLouvre"
(http://mistral.enst.fr/~pioch/louvre) of better rendering (I think).

Daniel




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The Search AstroWeb WAIS index is not working properly (today the link
is found, but gives empty answers).

Daniel


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It it broken and I am trying to fix it 
as soon as I can.

The fix will involve changing the URL.

Stay tuned for more information.


			Bob


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I have put all the stuff previously residing on

	stsci.edu

onto

	anarky.stsci.edu  (My own machine)

Take a look at

	http://marvel.stsci.edu/net-resources.html

for all the URL's with "anarky.stsci.edu" in them.

In particular

	http://anarky.stsci.edu/astroweb/search-master.html
	http://anarky.stsci.edu/cgi-bin/search-master



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Dear friends,

I have a question related to the update procedure of the now central
AstroWeb database at the STScI: the astroweb is continuously receiving
update/inclusion  requests from astronomical institutes around the world. I
usually file these requests away for some later time, and now I have
collected a number of which I presume most have made their way already into
the database.

What are we supposed to be doing with these requests? Does every AstroWeb
member carry out a search of the AstroWeb database and include the new
source, if it wasn't there already? This seems to me a waste of our
precious time.

I therefore wonder what you think of a scheme where one of us would be on
the AstroWeb "hot seat" for a month say and handle all requests that flow
in during that time.

Cheers
Hans-Martin




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The Form used to add a single resource checks if the
URL is already present, i.e., it does the search for you.


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Hans-Martin Adorf writes:
 > ... I
 > usually file these requests away for some later time, and now I have
 > collected a number of which I presume most have made their way already into
 > the database..
 > What are we supposed to be doing with these requests? Does every AstroWeb
 > member carry out a search of the AstroWeb database and include the new
 > source, if it wasn't there already? This seems to me a waste of our
 > precious time.

I have exactly the same problem. Some of the requests which I have
received were addressed to me personally.  I must check them.  Most,
if not all, of the ones that were addressed to the AstroWeb mailing
list have been entered by Anton and Bob.

The STScI WAIS search utility is a good tool for testing the existence
of resource records. Another technique which I use is the
'incremental-search' feature of Emacs.

 > I therefore wonder what you think of a scheme where one of us would be on
 > the AstroWeb "hot seat" for a month say and handle all requests that flow
 > in during that time.

IMO, your "hot-seat" idea would probably be a good thing.

-Don


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Dear Friends,

Here are a few considerations on an earlier discussion about individual
pages within the framework of AstroWeb.

1. As alluded by Daniel, I have no objection to go on with my own
   compilation of these pages fed into StarHeads. AstroWeb can freely
   point to StarHeads.

2. I am not really worried about the multiplication of these pages, 
   because we know that this will reach a plateau. We are currently in 
   the steep gradient of the curve of increase. And we are still far from
   the few thousands of astronomers who are IAU members. Not all of them
   are expected to have their page on the web, but of course other people
   have to be included.

3. This brings up another point: who has to be included? Astronomers and
   space scientists definitely. Site manegers and active persons in fields
   related to AstroWeb certainly. I am less positive about graduate students.
   After careful perusal of the pages, I decide whether it is appropriate or
   not to include them.
   
   `Appropriate' is of course difficult to explain in a few words here, but
   this is where the human brain has to interfere in order to build a useful
   database of quality. Remember also that there is a risk that graduate
   students move quickly from one institution to another and that it
   might be difficult to keep track of all of them.

4. There is also a last point on the intrinsic quality of the pages
   themselves. As all of you have probably already noticed, some of
   these pages are empty, or just contain rubbish. Obviously I have not
   included these in StarHeads.
    
Hope the temperature + humidity is more bearable at your place than here...  

Cheers,
Andre.

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Message entered by: steve kent @ steve.fnal.gov [131.225.7.8]

Under the list of surveys - change to http://www-sdss.fnal.gov:8000/


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Message entered by: Gereon Dahmen @ ctiot6.ctio.noao.edu [139.229.1.36]

To whom it may concern!

I would like to tell you that the directory structure of our 
http server has changed. Therefore, the personal www pages 
you have noted in your document

http://anarky.stsci.edu/astroweb/yp_people.html#personal

are not working anymore. Please change any directory which
looks like 

http://ctiot6.ctio.noao.edu/home/mauer/<username>/html/

to 

http://ctiot6.ctio.noao.edu/~<username>/

In addition, please change 

http://ctiot6.ctio.noao.edu/tlw.html 

to 

http://ctiot6.ctio.noao.edu/~wilson/tlw.html

Thank you for your efforts. 

Best wishes, 

Gereon Dahmen



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<HEAD>
<TITLE> The Electronic Be Star Newsletter </TITLE>
</HEAD>

<BODY>

<H1> The Electronic Be Star Newsletter </H1>

The <i>Be Star Newsletter</i>, a publication of the IAU 
Working Group on Be Stars, is now available on-line as an 
electronic journal. 
The <i>Be Star Newsletter</i> is a non-refereed electronic 
and paper journal that is published approximately twice per year.  
The <i>Newsletter</i> is open to all contributions 
(observations, theory, or other news) concerning early-type stars 
and especially hot, near main-sequence stars. 
The goal of the <i>Newsletter</i> is to foster communication 
between researchers interested in this field of stellar astronomy. 
<P>

The <i> Newsletter </i> is available in three formats:

<UL>
<LI> A paper version distributed to 
libraries and subscribers who prefer this medium 
(see <a href="http://chara.gsu.edu/BeNews/Current_Volume/paper.html"> 
for instructions).
<LI> A plain text version that is distributed electronically to 
subscribers and is available through 
<a href="ftp://chara.gsu.edu/BeNews">anonymous ftp</a> from 
<tt>chara.gsu.edu</tt> (change to subdirectory ``BeNews'':
<tt>cd BeNews, get news28.txt</tt>).   Articles containing 
figures are also available in this subdirectory as PostScript files
(with names ending in <tt>.ps</tt>). 
<LI> The <i>Newsletter</i> is also available using the Mosaic program 
on the World Wide Web.  This is perhaps the fastest and most convenient
way to read the <i>Newsletter</i>.   If you have this facility 
available to you, enter the following Uniform Resource Locator 
(URL): <BR>
<tt> http://chara.gsu.edu/BeNews/intro.html </tt> <BR>
</UL> 
<P>

<ADDRESS> Douglas R. Gies / gies@chara.gsu.edu</ADDRESS>

</BODY>


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with respect to:

I would like to tell you that the directory structure of our 
http server has changed. Therefore, the personal www pages 
you have noted in your document

http://anarky.stsci.edu/astroweb/yp_people.html#personal

are not working anymore. Please change any directory which
looks like 

http://ctiot6.ctio.noao.edu/home/mauer/<username>/html/

to 

http://ctiot6.ctio.noao.edu/~<username>/

In addition, please change 

http://ctiot6.ctio.noao.edu/tlw.html 

to 

http://ctiot6.ctio.noao.edu/~wilson/tlw.html

**************************************************

I am a little confused by your email message.

Would be so kind as to provide me with a list of
Old(Incorrect) and New(Correct) URL's for your site?

Thanks.

			bob


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Should be avoided.
They do not work.

Please use absolute/(full path) URL's
in the descriptions.


		Bob


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Message entered by: rji @ resun03.roe.ac.uk [192.108.120.17]

The URL of the Royal Observatory, Edinburgh (ROE) has
changed from http://resun03.roe.ac.uk/ to
http://www.roe.ac.uk/ effective immediately.
The old URL will still function, but it not clear how long
this will continue to be the case.


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The URL for ROE has been changed in AstroWeb


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Updated entry for Armagh Observatory (from data entered into inp_incoming.html)


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From: Bob Jackson <jackson@stsci.edu>
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With respect to the proliferation of 'personal' and
'people' resources on AstroWeb...

AstroWeb only supports people who have created
personal information on an HTTPD, WAIS, GOPHER, FTP, 
or TELNET server.

What the community needs is an extension to the
Benn Email listing which individual people can
add and change records.

I think 'somebody' should create a new service
called "AstroOids" or something more respectable.

The data would be ~~

	name: { Robert E. Jackson }
	address: { STScI/APSB
		   3700 San Martin Drive
		   Baltimore, MD 21218
		   USA }
	password: { .... }
	domain: { anarky.stsci.edu }
        interests: { ...... }
	email: { jackson@stsci.edu }
	inst: { Computer Sciences Corporation }
	phone: { 410 338 4737 USA }
	url: { http://.......... }
	comments: { ...... }

The only required fields would be 'name:', 'address:', 
'password:', 'domain:', and 'interests:'.  The rest of the 
fields are optional.

The 'interests' would be populated via HTML checkboxes
with categories taken from the A&A Abstracts.

ANYONE could add a record via HTML forms.  

ANYONE running in 'domain' and entering the correct 'password' 
could delete that record.

The database would be searchable via HTML Forms and WAIS.
The entire record would be indexed.  This would allow
people to find people with similar 'interests'.

A formatted version of the entire database would available
via HTTPD and FTP.

The database maintainers would not approve the addition
of records.  However the maintainers would monitor the 
database to remove 'noise' records.

The database could be initially populated from the 
Benn EMail listing at RGO.  (I don't know what to do
about 'domain' and 'password' in this case.)

Then we could offload all the 'personal' and 'people'
records off of AstroWeb.



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Dear AstroWeb friends,

I will be at the IAU August 17-26. I hope that my AstroWeb daemons
will continue to function during that period. I don't know whether I
will be able to check the daemons or my mailbox from Den Haag. 

Andre asked me to give a 10-15min talk on the title "AstroWeb and the
future of astronomical resources on the Web" during his "Information
Handling" session of Commission 5 on August 23 at 14:00, so at least
two of us will be together to represent the Consortium at that session..

I (and my wife and daughter) will be staying at the Mercure hotel.

-Don



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Dear Donald Wells,

I believe that you are in charge of the HTML Version of AstroWeb Database
on WWW.  How could I go about getting my own home page listed on this WWW
database?  I am an assistant research professor at George Mason University
but I spend most of my time working at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center. I
am a member of the AAS and the IAU. My home page has the URL of
http://enemy.gsfc.nasa.gov/htmltest/rjn.html . 

One might include the following html text to cover me:

<DT>
<A HREF="http://enemy.gsfc.nasa.gov/htmltest/rjn.html">
NEMIROFF Robert 
</A>
<!-- CATEGORY personal -->
( GMU and GSFC )
</DT>

I thank you for your consideration.

- - Robert Nemiroff
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From: Bob Jackson <jackson@stsci.edu>
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Anton has found another case where changes were lost
when editing the entire database.

It seems to occur when changes are made close together
in time.

I am looking into it.


				Bob


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From: Bob Jackson <jackson@stsci.edu>
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Or so I think.

It should do a much better job of
detecting clashes now.

		Bob


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Message entered by: Don Barry @ hujer.chara.gsu.edu [131.96.5.29]

Dear Database Coordinator,
   The "Astronomical Society of the Atlantic", an amateur
astronomy organization, is no longer affiliated with our 
astronomy group, and we no longer provide a web page of their
functions.  Please remove their descriptor from our entry.

    We now provide an Earth Satellite Ephemeris service
via the web, accessible through a simple form mechanism
to generate predictions of brighter earth satellite visibility
for educational and illustrative purposes.  The URL is
   http://chara.gsu.edu/sat.html

   Cheers,
     Don Barry  (don@chara.gsu.edu)
      Georgia State University Astronomy   


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Thanks for the update.
I have deleted 
   The "Astronomical Society of the Atlantic"

and added
    We now provide an Earth Satellite Ephemeris service

		Bob


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From: dwells (Don Wells)
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Dear AstroWeb friends,

Today I fetched a copy of the database, and made many changes.  The
STScI server refused to do the update, apparently because it knew that
I had fetched my copy _before_ Anton had done an update. It said "Try
Starting From Scratch Again". This message was rather irritating, but
at least the server was protecting against loss of Anton's changes.

I fetched a new copy of the database, now including Anton's changes.
How to merge his changes with mine?!? 

I decided to try Sun's 'filemerge' tool (in directory /usr/lang/).
The tool ran for many minutes, and finally crashed when it filled the
disk.  The temp directory contained two files of 20_MB and one of
178_MB!!  Then I had an idea: perhaps filemerge was having trouble
with the very long lines in newmaster.html? I generated a keyboard
macro in Emacs to insert newlines, executed it on the two files, and
tried filemerge again. Success!!

The filemerge tool displayed three windows: my version, Anton's
version, and the merged output file. There were 'left' and 'right'
buttons. The tool goes through the file asking for a decision (left or
right version, or hand-edit) on each difference. In only a few minutes
I created a merged database, which I then was able to upload to STScI.

I recommend that http://lor.stsci.edu/astroweb/newmaster.html be
changed to have short lines.

-Don



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From: Bob Jackson <jackson@stsci.edu>
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I have broken up the description field into 
lines of 10 words.

Now lets hope everything works.

(I made a backup of the database).


			Bob


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CATEGORY: Astronomy Departments
TITLE: Uppsala Astronomical Observatory

The word 'activities' is wrongly spelt.

Best regards,

	Johan.



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Thanks Bob, for changing the database format (to shorter lines).
I find it much more convenient to use. I have made several tests
and several real updates. It seemed to work fine...  Bravo !

Daniel


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Bob,

A minor formal remark: when an anchor does not respond for some time you flag
it as "DEAD" (in bold face) in the database.  This word seems inappropriate 
when it appears in front of a person's name  -- who is most probably alive
and well, but has simply left the institute or changed the file name !!!
  Would someone propose a different wording ? (inactive ? lost ? ... ?).

Daniel


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hi,

Good to see that the concurrent editing is working; in addition the new
shortened version of the database appears to be working fine. I agree, it's
great!

There was one minor fix that needed to be done before my version would look
right - this seems to be related to the fact that I use the html file as
input when creating my astroweb presentation. The problem was that a few
of the description fields (26 to be exact) had their trailing '}' on a line
by itself. When the html file is created at stsci, this results in a blank line
being inserted before the trailing </DD> for these records - which in turn
upsets the makefiles I use.

However I have now fixed all these records in the master database by putting
the trailing } on the end of the last description line containing text, which
looks better in any case from the point of view of consistency with all the
other description fields. My version of astroweb is also now back to normal.

In case this does cause some other kind of problem, I still have the list of
URLs for which I made this change.

						cheers,
						 - anton.

PS

Daniel writes:
>  Would someone propose a different wording ? (inactive ? lost ? ... ?).

:)
how about 'not working'..
My serious suggestion is 'URL inactive: ' or something involving the term URL.


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From: Bob Jackson <jackson@stsci.edu>
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http://rd.cs.colorado.edu/harvest/

I got the BETA release from them and am looking
into how I/we can use it.


			Bob


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From: Will Sutherland <wjs@astro.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 94 14:41:52 BST
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Hi, the Astroweb category listing page is much the best such 
page I've come across. Thanks very much, 
                      Will Sutherland.



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Message entered by: karen @ tycho.apo.nmsu.edu [192.41.211.42]

The URL of my personal home page has changed.  The OLD URL
was http://albert.astro.williams.edu/kgloria.html.  The NEW
URL is

http://www.apo.nmsu.edu/site/directory/kgloria/kgloria.html

regards,

Karen Gloria