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Message entered by: Rob Seaman @ tucana.tuc.noao.edu [140.252.1.1]

The URL for my personal web page has changed from:

    http://iraf.noao.edu/iraf_staff/seaman/seaman.html

to:

    http://iraf.noao.edu/~seaman/seaman.html

Could you please correct this link?

Thanks!


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Subject: Merging proposal, version 2.1 (final?)
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After the New Year holidays, here you have the version 2.1 of the 
proposal, including comments and suggestions from the group.
The proposal (v.2.0) was forwarded to Sergio Paoli and he agrees.

We could include Sergio in the AstroWeb exploder list for further discussions
on more concrete matters. 
     
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Proposal for merging AstroWeb and WWW VL-Astron.&Astrophys. 
                          version 2.1   
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Generate a common database by merging URLs in AstroWeb and WWW-VL.
   The new master version of the database, in TCL form, is located at ST/ScI.

2. An HTML-format version of the database is generated from the master.
   The transfer of mirror copies is initiated and performed by   
   Level-1 and Level-2 sites.

3. Level-1 sites are:
     CDS, CERN-VL (La Plata), MSSSO, NRAO, ST/ECF, ST/ScI and VILSPA.

4. Level-2 sites will transfer mirror copies from any Level-1 center.

5. The master database is maintained by people at Level-1 centers, 
   using the remote editing facility. Information required to update the 
   database is collected via update/correction forms, e-mails and discussions 
   in the AstroWeb exploder.

6. Sergio Paoli is invited to joint the group. He will maintain the 
   CERN-VL mirror copy.

7. The AstroWeb pages will mention that CERN-VL (La Plata) is part of the
   Consortium, and the CERN-VL pages will mention that their data comes
   from the AstroWeb database.

8. It is recommended that CERN-VL pages contain links to the AstroWeb 
   search service(s) and entry forms.

9. The implementation plan has to be defined, the following points are 
   proposed: 
   - Records in the CERN-VL pages not available in the  AstroWeb database
     are identified.
   - New categories are defined if required (for instance, MAILING LISTS
     are not available under AstroWeb). 
   - The Consortium members will share the addition of new records into the
     AstroWeb database.
   - Sergio will create a daemon to compute the CERN-VL pages from the 
     AstroWeb database (with our help, if requested).
   - At the end of the process, after testing and changeover, the merged
     database should be announced.      
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A copy of this e-mail has been forwarded to spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar 
    
Happy New Year!

Daniel



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Welcome aboard, Sergio! Here is the current mailing list:

Don Wells         <dwells@nrao.edu>
Bob Jackson       <jackson@stsci.edu>
Hans-Martin Adorf <adorf@eso.org>
Andre HECK        <heck@cdsxb6.u-strasbg.fr>
Daniel Egret      <egret@simbad.u-strasbg.fr>
anton koekemoer   <anton@mso.anu.edu.au>
Fionn Murtagh     <fmurtagh@eso.org>
Jose Daniel Ponz  <jdp@vilspa.esa.es>
Sergio Paoli      <spaoli@fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar>

All traffic on exploder <astroweb@nrao.edu> is archived at 
    ftp://fits.cv.nrao.edu/fits/traffic/astroweb/

Best regards,
Don


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[This is my second try --- Sergio's address was wrong on the first try.]

Welcome aboard, Sergio! Here is the current mailing list:

Don Wells         <dwells@nrao.edu>
Bob Jackson       <jackson@stsci.edu>
Hans-Martin Adorf <adorf@eso.org>
Andre HECK        <heck@cdsxb6.u-strasbg.fr>
Daniel Egret      <egret@simbad.u-strasbg.fr>
anton koekemoer   <anton@mso.anu.edu.au>
Fionn Murtagh     <fmurtagh@eso.org>
Jose Daniel Ponz  <jdp@vilspa.esa.es>
Sergio Paoli      <spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar>

All traffic on exploder <astroweb@nrao.edu> is archived at 
    ftp://fits.cv.nrao.edu/fits/traffic/astroweb/

Best regards,
Don


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  Hi,
     This mail is only by to say:
     
     I'm listen...
     
     Don, thanks for your welcome!
     
     If you want know more about me, take a look in my personal page.
     (the URL is in my signature...)
     
     Oh, one thing more, in my opinion the proposal (version 2.1) is OK.
     And, of course, I will need your help!
     
     Cheers,
     
     
                                               Sergio   ;-)
                                               
                                               
--
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Sergio A. Paoli                         :  Paseo del Bosque s/n        :
: Department of Spectroscopy              :  (1900) La Plata             :
: Astronomical Observatory                :  Argentina                   :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Phones   +54 21 21-7308                                                :
:          +54 21  3-8810                                                :
: Fax      +54 21 21-1761                                                :
: e-mail:  spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar                              : 
: WWW:     http://www.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar/spaoli/sergio-home.html         :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+


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From: dwells@fits.CV.NRAO.EDU (Don Wells)
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Dear AstroWeb friends,

Jose Daniel Ponz writes:
 > 7. The AstroWeb pages will mention that CERN-VL (La Plata) is part of the
 >    Consortium..

<A HREF="http://fits.cv.nrao.edu/www/astroweb.html">The AstroWeb Consortium</A>
has been revised to include WWW-VL (La Plata). Other changes were also
made in this page, which is referenced in most (all?) AstroWeb pages. Comments?

 >    - New categories are defined if required (for instance, MAILING LISTS
 >      are not available under AstroWeb). 

I recommend that Bob add code "mailing_list" to the set of legal categories.

-Don


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I have added

	mailing_list

to the legal categorys in astrowebedit.

It is only a primary category and not a secondary category.
Is this OK?

		Bob


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I have no problems with 

      Proposal for merging AstroWeb and WWW VL-Astron.&Astrophys. 
                          version 2.1   


			Bob


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From: (Sergio Paoli) <spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar>
Subject: Re: Merging proposal, version 2.1 (final?) 
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> 
> Dear AstroWeb friends,
> 
> Jose Daniel Ponz writes:
>  > 7. The AstroWeb pages will mention that CERN-VL (La Plata) is part of the
>  >    Consortium..
> 
> <A HREF="http://fits.cv.nrao.edu/www/astroweb.html">The AstroWeb Consortium</A>
> has been revised to include WWW-VL (La Plata). Other changes were also
> made in this page, which is referenced in most (all?) AstroWeb pages. Comments?



    Hi,
       Respect to the subjet "Work is in progress...", I'll take one week 
       of vacations begining tomorrow, and the people in CERN are in holidays 
       too. Then, in the next week, I'll make the changes in my pages at 
       CERN... (I'll need your help, Daniel   ;-)
    
> 
>  >    - New categories are defined if required (for instance, MAILING LISTS
>  >      are not available under AstroWeb). 
> 
> I recommend that Bob add code "mailing_list" to the set of legal categories.
> 
> -Don
> 

       In my page Mailing lists are all the resources about astronomy
       mailing lists wich I founded. There are one list about history of
       astronomy (the name is H-ASTRO) but I not know more about this...
       
       
                                            Sergio   ;-)
                                            
                                            

P.S.: Don, you are looked today my personal page, wich is your opinion?
      
--
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Sergio A. Paoli                         :  Paseo del Bosque s/n        :
: Department of Spectroscopy              :  (1900) La Plata             :
: Astronomical Observatory                :  Argentina                   :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Phones   +54 21 21-7308                                                :
:          +54 21  3-8810                                                :
: Fax      +54 21 21-1761                                                :
: e-mail:  spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar                              : 
: WWW:     http://www.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar/spaoli/sergio-home.html         :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+


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From: (Sergio Paoli) <spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar>
Subject: Re: Merging proposal, version 2.1 (final?) 
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> 
> I have added
> 
> 	mailing_list
> 
> to the legal categorys in astrowebedit.
> 
> It is only a primary category and not a secondary category.
> Is this OK?
> 
> 		Bob
> 


    Hi Bob,
           In my opinoin is OK,
           
           
                                                  Sergio   ;-)
                                                  
                                                  
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+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Sergio A. Paoli                         :  Paseo del Bosque s/n        :
: Department of Spectroscopy              :  (1900) La Plata             :
: Astronomical Observatory                :  Argentina                   :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Phones   +54 21 21-7308                                                :
:          +54 21  3-8810                                                :
: Fax      +54 21 21-1761                                                :
: e-mail:  spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar                              : 
: WWW:     http://www.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar/spaoli/sergio-home.html         :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+


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From: (Sergio Paoli) <spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar>
Subject: MISTAKE... 
To: astroweb@NRAO.EDU
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> 
> <A HREF="http://fits.cv.nrao.edu/www/astroweb.html">The AstroWeb Consortium</A>
> has been revised to include WWW-VL (La Plata). Other changes were also
> made in this page, which is referenced in most (all?) AstroWeb pages. Comments?
> 
 
 
 
     Don, 
         In this page there are a problem with the address of Daniel Egret.
         
         
                                                           Sergio   ;-)
                                                           


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+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Sergio A. Paoli                         :  Paseo del Bosque s/n        :
: Department of Spectroscopy              :  (1900) La Plata             :
: Astronomical Observatory                :  Argentina                   :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Phones   +54 21 21-7308                                                :
:          +54 21  3-8810                                                :
: Fax      +54 21 21-1761                                                :
: e-mail:  spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar                              : 
: WWW:     http://www.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar/spaoli/sergio-home.html         :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+


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Thanks. I have fixed it. I thought I had tested all of the URLs! -Don


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Bob Jackson writes:
 > I have added > mailing_list > to the legal categorys in astrowebedit.

I ADDed two mailing_list records to the database.  I then recomputed
the AstroWeb pages at NRAO.  I had to add code to program dtsort.awk
because the two new URLs use code "mailto:" (the URLs will mail a
subscription request!).  I also changed dtsplit.awk in order to add
the new category to my pages. The new category works; see

    http://fits.cv.nrao.edu/www/yp_people.html#mailing_list

-Don


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From: (Sergio Paoli) <spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar>
Subject: ABOUT SIZE...
To: dwells@fits.CV.NRAO.EDU
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> 
> Bob Jackson writes:
>  > I have added > mailing_list > to the legal categorys in astrowebedit.
> 
> I ADDed two mailing_list records to the database.  I then recomputed
> the AstroWeb pages at NRAO.  I had to add code to program dtsort.awk
> because the two new URLs use code "mailto:" (the URLs will mail a
> subscription request!).  I also changed dtsplit.awk in order to add
> the new category to my pages. The new category works; see
> 
>     http://fits.cv.nrao.edu/www/yp_people.html#mailing_list
> 
> -Don
> 


     One thing, Don, in this page there are sections about 
     
     People 
     Personal Web pages
     Jobs
     Conferences and Meetings
     Newsgroups (at least somewhat astronomy-related)
     Mailing Lists (at least somewhat astronomy-related)
     
     If I want the section Mailing Lists only, I need load all the page.
     I prefer to split one big page in different small pages.
     There are opinions about this?
     
     
                                                       Sergio   ;-)
                                                       
                                                         
--
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Sergio A. Paoli                         :  Paseo del Bosque s/n        :
: Department of Spectroscopy              :  (1900) La Plata             :
: Astronomical Observatory                :  Argentina                   :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
: Phones   +54 21 21-7308                                                :
:          +54 21  3-8810                                                :
: Fax      +54 21 21-1761                                                :
: e-mail:  spaoli@fcaglp.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar                              : 
: WWW:     http://www.fcaglp.unlp.edu.ar/spaoli/sergio-home.html         :
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+


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Just a couple of words about this category:
- as the commercial use of the Internet is dramatically increasing, there
  will be a growing commercial interest in such resources, be they lists
  of e-mail or postal addresses;
- as we experienced quite recently here, there is a strong, vocal and
  nastily active kernel or lobby of people, essentially in the US,
  fighting vigorously unsollicited e-mail; they refer to some Internet
  ethical charter that could be indeed interpreted in their favour.
Unsollicited mail appears to be a really hot issue - again essentially
in the US - and I believe that AstroWeb should put some caveats on top
of the mailing-lists category if people will be able to retrieve and 
indiscrimately use such resources through AstroWeb.
AH.
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Hi Sergio, welcome to the group,
and best wishes, all !

>      If I want the section Mailing Lists only, I need load all the page.
>     I prefer to split one big page in different small pages.
>     There are opinions about this?

This has been discussed in the past, and the idea is that each site
may have a different approach, trying to have each one its own balance 
between simplicity of organization (not too many files) and bandwidth 
efficiency (not too large files).

Daniel Egret


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Don Wells writes:
 > Sergio Paoli writes:
 >  >      I prefer to split one big page in different small pages.
 > 
 > I agree, and I intend to change the layout of those pages RSN..

I have made the change -- each category is now in a separate page.
The code of program http://fits.cv.nrao.edu/www/astroweb/dtsplit.awk
was changed, the configuration table was not changed at all. The
previous version is file dtsplit.old

-Don



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Don Wells writes:
> I have made the change -- each category is now in a separate page.
> The code of program http://fits.cv.nrao.edu/www/astroweb/dtsplit.awk
> was changed, the configuration table was not changed at all. The
> previous version is file dtsplit.old

I have temporarily removed the mirror copy of NRAO pages at CDS,
as I have no time in the next few days to follow the changes made.
Will be restored in a week or two.

Daniel



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Hello everyone,

a new entry into our publication list:

"The AstroWeb Database of Internet Resources",
H.-M. Adorf, D. Egret, A. Heck, R. Jackson, A. Koekemoer, F. Murtagh, D.
Wells: 1994, Messenger 78, 44-46

Cheers
Hans-Martin




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Message entered by: Michiel Berger @ sirius.astro.uva.nl [146.50.10.41]

Hello,

The WWW-server of the Astronomical Institute of the 
Univ. of Amsterdam has moved. There are links referring
to us in the Astronomy Departments and Preprints pages.
Could you please change
http://helios.astro.uva.nl:8888/home.html
to
http://www.astro.uva.nl/
and similar for the preprints page?

Thanks!

Regards,
Michiel Berger



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has benn changed to

http://www.astro.uva.nl/

whereever it appears in AstroWeb.

			Bob


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Did you see this?

-hma




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Philip Enslow <enslow@cc.gatech.edu> writes:
  The First and Second WWW Conferences are now history and planning
  is underway for the Third to be held in Darmstadt in April. The
  official Proceedings of the First Conference have now been
  published as a Special Issue of Computer Networks and ISDN Systems
  which contains eighteen of the best papers. For further
  information on the journal, see:

http://www.elsevier.nl/

  The Proceedings of the Second Conference are being prepared for
  publication as a Special Issue also. The Third Conference, which
  will be much smaller than the Second (which turned out to be
  enormous), will also use the Journal to publish its proceedings.
  The Fourth Conference is tentatively scheduled for Boston in
  November or December of 1995.




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	Adorf))
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Dear WebMaster for AstroWeb:

I manage the Homepage for Plasma Science and Technology at
URL http://www-plasma.umd.edu.  It covers all aspects of plasma
science (basic, fusion, technology, space).  The Space Plasma
section (see resources page) has a comprehensive list of current
homepages in Space Physics including the homepage for NASA's Space
Physics Division.  I recommend some of these links to you for AstroWeb -
check them out by links from the plasma homepage.

Under "Other Info." I recommend a link to the plasma homepage above
and also the sci.physics.plasma Newsgroup for your Newsgroup listing
because this one includes space plasmas.

One last item - I'm puzzled by your title.  I thought that modern
astronomy includes all of the broad, interdisciplinary fields of
Astrophysics, Planetary science and Space Physics.  Using the
phrase "Astronomy and Astrophysics" effectively duplicates astrophysics
in the title and, in my view, causes confusion.  I earlier tried to
learn what this peculiar combination of terms means from the NAS study
by the Bahcall committee entitled "A Decade of Discovery in Astronomy
and Astrophysics" (published about 1990); however, the document never
defines the terms and uses at least four different meanings for the
terms, thus greatly adding to my confusion.  At the University of Maryland,
our department here is simply titled "Dep't of Astronomy" and they do
Astrophysics, Planetary Physics, and Space Physics (no confusion there).

Also, under the category of Other: Astro. & Sp. Sci., I only found the
Space Telescope Institute item.  There are many more useful sources of
course and I suggest adding one or two more.

I hope that these suggestions/comments are helpful.

With very best wishes for the New Year

Tim Eastman
Institute for Physical Science and Technology
University of Maryland
301-405-4829




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Dear Tim Eastman,

thank you for your comments about AstroWeb, which I have forwarded to the
AstroWeb consortium for review.

>I manage the Homepage for Plasma Science and Technology at
>URL http://www-plasma.umd.edu.  It covers all aspects of plasma
>science (basic, fusion, technology, space).  The Space Plasma
>section (see resources page) has a comprehensive list of current
>homepages in Space Physics including the homepage for NASA's Space
>Physics Division.  I recommend some of these links to you for AstroWeb -
>check them out by links from the plasma homepage.
>
>Under "Other Info." I recommend a link to the plasma homepage above
>and also the sci.physics.plasma Newsgroup for your Newsgroup listing
>because this one includes space plasmas.

The easiest for us would be if you submitted new entries, since you are
knowledgeable in this area.

>One last item - I'm puzzled by your title.  I thought that modern
>astronomy includes all of the broad, interdisciplinary fields of
>Astrophysics, Planetary science and Space Physics.  Using the
>phrase "Astronomy and Astrophysics" effectively duplicates astrophysics
>in the title and, in my view, causes confusion.  I earlier tried to
>learn what this peculiar combination of terms means from the NAS study
>by the Bahcall committee entitled "A Decade of Discovery in Astronomy
>and Astrophysics" (published about 1990); however, the document never
>defines the terms and uses at least four different meanings for the
>terms, thus greatly adding to my confusion.  At the University of Maryland,
>our department here is simply titled "Dep't of Astronomy" and they do
>Astrophysics, Planetary Physics, and Space Physics (no confusion there).

I think that the reasons for this terminology is mainly historical.
Astronomy is the oldest science apart from geometry, and initially was
mainly concerned with the positions of stars and the dynamics of the Sun,
Moon and planets. Initially, it was not understood that the same physical
laws are ruling the celestial objects that govern the processes on Earth.
The big intellectual achievement of Isaac Newton was to show that the
motions of planets are governed by gravitation. Our century added the
knowledge that it is nuclear fusion which generates the energy the Sun
radiates. So astrophysics was conceived as the branch of astronomy which
deals with the physical processes in stars. Physical phenomena in other
objects such as quasars were added later, without changing the term
astrophysics - the same way noone has made a move to change the name of
astronomy into celestology, say, despite the fact that only a fraction of
astronomers deal with stars. Some people claim "It's all physics out there"
and therefore astronomy is part of physics, which is not true since there
is also some chemistry involved.

I myself could also not claim to be an astrophysicist since I have never
used  physical laws in my research area, but I would still claim to be
called an astronomer, since I e.g. classify astronomical objects, or I
restore images of such objects.

>Also, under the category of Other: Astro. & Sp. Sci., I only found the
>Space Telescope Institute item.  There are many more useful sources of
>course and I suggest adding one or two more.

Again the easiest for us would be if you could fill the forms we provide
and enter those links that you have in mind, rather than let us find out.
Your cooperation is appreciated.

>I hope that these suggestions/comments are helpful.

Yes, Thanks.

Regards
Hans-Martin Adorf




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Message entered by: khaled m.m.saleh @ frcu.eun.eg [193.227.1.1]

hi
iwandar if you help me to get data of flux of xray star
with the time for xray binary star or late type star ,
so iwant a relation between flux and time .
PLEASE ,HELP ME IN MY MASTAR DEGREE
THANK YOU 
KHALED M.M. SALEH 
N.B. 
my adress is : helwan observatory-helwan-cairo-egypt


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I entered the following, because a few astronomical institutes are 
involved.  A category such as 'Misc' doesn't seem the best..  maybe a topic
such as 'Education and popularization' is needed.  

Fionn

-----
The Science and Engineering Television Network initiative: 

The Science and Engineering Television Network, Inc., SETN, is a non-profit
consortium of scientific societies, universities, laboratories and corporations
organized to foster the development of scientific communication in the medium
of television. SETN invites other organizations to join in the creation of and
distribution of programming. The network intends to mirror the best scientific
print publications and it will broadcast news reports, lecture-demonstrations,
interviews, conferences and discussions all concerned with the latest
international developments in scientific research and science policy. 

http://www.service.com/stv/setncall.html
----


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Dear colleages, 
    For your information on the status of the AstroWeb implementation at 
Villafranca:
- Files newmaster.html and astroweb.html are periodically downloaded from
  STScI and NRAO, resp.
- yp*.html files are now generated from the master database (one file per 
  category) using a perl translation of the procedures dtsort, dtsplit 
  and dtnodd.
- The procedure dtsort uses the auxiliary file country_codes.

  The procedures are documented in 
       http://www.vilspa.esa.es/astroweb/procedures.html
  available from the main access page.

Best regards,
Daniel Ponz


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Message entered by: Wayne Landsman @ sorbet.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.57.47]

The IDL Astronomy Library now has a WWW home page

http://idlastro.gsfc.nasa.gov/homepage.html

which should be used in preference to the FTP address
currently given in the AstroWeb database.

Thank you,       --Wayne Landsman


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from most recent isseu of TidBITs:

Connection Machine WAIS Server Down -- Unfortunately, due to
  financial troubles, Thinking Machines has taken down the vastly
  useful Connection Machine WAIS server, effective 27-Dec-94. The
  data is all pretty much safe, so it's likely to appear again at
  some other site in the future. In the meantime, the sources for
  TidBITS, <comp.sys.mac.programmer>, Info-Mac Digest, the CIA World
  Factbook, and others are not available. I'm talking with various
  people about ways of making the Connection Machine sources
  available once again, but until then, all I can say is to be
  patient. The list of sources lost includes: [ACE]

CM-fortran-manual.src
CM-paris-manual.src
CM-star-lisp-docs.src
CM-tech-summary.src
CMFS-documentation.src
Connection-Machine.src
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risks-digest.src
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Hello-
	I am interested in receiving information on how to add 
homepages and information to AstroWeb. We currently have an 
astronomy homepage that we are updating for the current academic year. 
Areas that we would like to contribute to WWW are:

	Astronomy Department
	Optical Telescope Resources
	Survey Projects
and possibly:
	Individual Instruments Resources
	Personal Home Page (for our faculty)

Thank you, 
Lisa Frattare
Wesleyan University/Van Vleck Observatory
Middletown, CT


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Hello Lisa,

the standard procedure to add entries to the AstroWeb database is to use a
WWW client such as Mosaic or MacWeb or Netscape or ... and the forms for
which links are provided from each of the AstroWeb presentations. E.g. if
you use the URL http://ecf.hq.eso.org/astroweb/yp_astro_resources.html you
will find a hot link to "contribution of new resources". Entering new
resources is straightforward and self-explaining.

Regards
Hans-Martin Adorf

>Hello-
>        I am interested in receiving information on how to add
>homepages and information to AstroWeb. We currently have an
>astronomy homepage that we are updating for the current academic year.
>Areas that we would like to contribute to WWW are:
>
>        Astronomy Department
>        Optical Telescope Resources
>        Survey Projects
>and possibly:
>        Individual Instruments Resources
>        Personal Home Page (for our faculty)
>
>Thank you,
>Lisa Frattare
>Wesleyan University/Van Vleck Observatory
>Middletown, CT

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There may be some additional resources for
AstroWeb in:

http://akebono.stanford.edu/yahoo/Science/Astronomy/
ftp://everest.mit.edu/pub/gps/asante/astron.html
http://www.astro.nwu.edu/lentz/astro/home-astro.html
http://www.einet.net/galaxy/Science/Astronomy.html

Or we should add them to AstroWeb in the 'astroweb' category.


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>There may be some additional resources for
>AstroWeb in:
>
>http://akebono.stanford.edu/yahoo/Science/Astronomy/
>ftp://everest.mit.edu/pub/gps/asante/astron.html
>http://www.astro.nwu.edu/lentz/astro/home-astro.html
>http://www.einet.net/galaxy/Science/Astronomy.html
>
>Or we should add them to AstroWeb in the 'astroweb' category.

Let's do the latter and honour the efforts others have spent independetly
from us.

-hma




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From: Andre HECK <heck@cdsxb6.u-strasbg.fr>
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1. At the last AAS meeting in Tucson, someone started collecting openly 
URLs of all kinds. I got in touch with this person, told him of the 
existence of AstroWeb and the Star*s Family and suggested he contribute
with the URLs he collected. That person was: ggs@Charmian.sonoma.EDU 
(Gordon Spear) and you might see some influx from him.

2. I am flooded currently with the questionnaires returned from the Star*s
Family updating campaign. Many of the forms contain new URLs and, according
to recent statistics I run, I believe there are now more URLs in the SF 
(basically StarWorlds + StarHeads) than in AstroWeb, although there is
no 100% duplication. As soon as I'll have cleared up the backlog, I intend
to run some comparative tests for the SF subset with WWW links and add those
that would not be then in AstroWeb. This might take some time, but we'll
manage somehow.

All the best,
AH.
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Message entered by: Norman Gray @ norman.astro.gla.ac.uk [130.209.45.150]


Greetings.

You list the home page of the Glasgow University
Astronomy Group as http://info.astro.gla.ac.uk/ .  We've
added another alias, so that this page is now the
more rational http://www.astro.gla.ac.uk/ .  The old alias
will still be there (probably indefinitely, in fact), but
it should now be quoted as the latter.

Thanks,

Norman



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Message entered by: Dave Green @ unix.hensa.ac.uk [129.12.43.16]

Please change the URLs for the following:

"Catalogue of Galactic Supernova Remnants"

http://www.phy.cam.ac.uk/www/research/ra/SNRs/snrs.intro.html

"Mullard Radio Astronomy Observatory"

http://www.phy.cam.ac.uk/www/research/ra/mrao.home.html



